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==Act 1==
 
==Act 1==
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| desc=Knuckles can destroy the four pistons of the [[Tunnelbot]] by [[Glide|gliding]] into them before it begins drilling.
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| desc=[[Shield]]s do not protect the player from the debris of [[Iwamodoki]]s.
 
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| game2=''Sonic 3 & Knuckles'' final
| desc=Shields do not protect you from the debris of [[Iwamodoki]]s.
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| desc=The bonus [[monitor]]s at the end of Act 1 are visible for some reason, and for some stranger reason, the monitors have reversed gravity when released by the [[Signpost]]. When Act 2 begins, any monitors that have gone off the top of the screen can be seen underneath the ground.
 
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==Act 2==
 
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| desc=The lava does not cool when Act 2 begins, but the player can still walk on it.
 
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| desc=Act 2's palette hasn't "fully cooled". Rather than having blue rocks, they are brown like Act 1, which gives the Act a very different look.
 
| desc=Act 2's palette hasn't "fully cooled". Rather than having blue rocks, they are brown like Act 1, which gives the Act a very different look.
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| game1=''Sonic 3C'' 0408
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| desc=The left level boundary won't lock after passing the first flamethrower at the start, meaning the player can backtrack as they please.
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| game1=''Sonic 3C'' 0408
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| desc=The start of the Act has a moving block that was removed later. The [[Ring]]s that floated above it were moved down to the ground after its removal.
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| game1=''Sonic 3C'' 0408
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| desc=This [[Fire Shield]] monitor in Knuckles' route is placed rather weirdly - it's floating slightly above the block it's placed on.
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| game1=''Sonic 3C'' 0408
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| desc=When [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] and/or [[Miles "Tails" Prower|Tails]] encounter Knuckles, his theme does not play, and he laughs after punching the boulder at them. The boulder doesn't make any sounds and won't cancel the player's [[Super transformation|Super form]].
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| game1=''Sonic 3C'' 0408
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| desc=These hidden monitors beneath the staircase where the boulder cutscene takes place are all 1-Ups. Two of them were changed to Super Rings in later builds.
 
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==Act 3==
 
==Act 3==
The fight with [[Hot Mobile]] is treated internally as a third Act in ''Sonic & Knuckles''.
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The fight with [[Hot Mobile]] is treated internally as a third Act in ''Sonic & Knuckles''. The regular music for Lava Reef Act 2 plays until the player reaches the boss, rather than the boss music playing immediately from the start of the area. There are also no sound effects defined for almost everything here.
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| desc=This series of platforms just before the Hot Mobile has less [[Ring]]s and is missing a [[Lightning Shield]].
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| game1=''Sonic 3C'' 0408
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| desc=The lava does not cool after breaking open the [[Capsule]]. If the player gets hurt on the lava after breaking the capsule, they will retain control during the results tally.
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| game1=''Sonic 3C'' 0408
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| desc=After the results tally finishes, the platform will slowly move to the right, leading to a stepping-stone sequence across the lava. The player has to be careful here, as they can still get hurt and die.
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| desc=The transition to [[Hidden Palace Zone (Sonic & Knuckles)|Hidden Palace Zone]] does not work here, so the player is basically stuck.
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Revision as of 19:51, 22 November 2019

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Act 1

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Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

Knuckles doesn't walk in at the start of the Act.

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Sonic 3C 0408
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Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

Knuckles can destroy the four pistons of the Tunnelbot by gliding into them before it begins drilling.

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Sonic 3C 0408
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Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

Shields do not protect the player from the debris of Iwamodokis.

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Sonic 3C 0408
Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

The bonus monitors at the end of Act 1 are visible for some reason, and for some stranger reason, the monitors have reversed gravity when released by the Signpost. When Act 2 begins, any monitors that have gone off the top of the screen can be seen underneath the ground.

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Sonic 3 & Knuckles final


Act 2

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Sonic 3C 0408
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Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

The lava does not cool when Act 2 begins, but the player can still walk on it.

Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3C 0408
Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

Act 2's palette hasn't "fully cooled". Rather than having blue rocks, they are brown like Act 1, which gives the Act a very different look.

Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3C 0408
Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

The left level boundary won't lock after passing the first flamethrower at the start, meaning the player can backtrack as they please.

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Sonic 3C 0408
Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

The start of the Act has a moving block that was removed later. The Rings that floated above it were moved down to the ground after its removal.

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Sonic 3C 0408
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Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

This Fire Shield monitor in Knuckles' route is placed rather weirdly - it's floating slightly above the block it's placed on.

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Sonic 3C 0408
Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

When Sonic and/or Tails encounter Knuckles, his theme does not play, and he laughs after punching the boulder at them. The boulder doesn't make any sounds and won't cancel the player's Super form.

Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3C 0408
Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

These hidden monitors beneath the staircase where the boulder cutscene takes place are all 1-Ups. Two of them were changed to Super Rings in later builds.

Map

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Sonic 3 & Knuckles final


Act 3

The fight with Hot Mobile is treated internally as a third Act in Sonic & Knuckles. The regular music for Lava Reef Act 2 plays until the player reaches the boss, rather than the boss music playing immediately from the start of the area. There are also no sound effects defined for almost everything here.

Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3C 0408
SonicandKnuckles MD Map Lr3.png
Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

This series of platforms just before the Hot Mobile has less Rings and is missing a Lightning Shield.

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Sonic 3C 0408
Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

The lava does not cool after breaking open the Capsule. If the player gets hurt on the lava after breaking the capsule, they will retain control during the results tally.

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Sonic 3C 0408
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Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

After the results tally finishes, the platform will slowly move to the right, leading to a stepping-stone sequence across the lava. The player has to be careful here, as they can still get hurt and die.

Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3C 0408
Notavailable.svg
Sonic 3 & Knuckles final

The transition to Hidden Palace Zone does not work here, so the player is basically stuck.

Map

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Sonic 3 & Knuckles final


References


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