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[[User:Qjimbo|Qjimbo]] 02:22, 27 April 2007 (CDT)
 
[[User:Qjimbo|Qjimbo]] 02:22, 27 April 2007 (CDT)
 
* I will agree that your version did give more detail, but there were two problems:<br><br>1) I cannot verify the extent of Quickman's role. The entire edit, and especially the phrase "...Qjimbo and Quickman had forcably..." appeared to give him far more credit than I can see he is due.<br>2) The last paragraph was a justification of the coup. This is completely unnecessary for a factual account. Note that the other two History sections simply tell WHAT happened. They do not attempt to justify any individual's actions.<br><br>I am calm enough at this point to begin integrating your edit into the article (tomorrow: it's 4:15 AM right now and i have to be at work in four hours). Note that if you attempt to inject any more propaganda, the page will be locked again.<br><br>As for the Wikipedia revert, it was clearly linkspam added by somebody with a vested interest in improving traffic to the site (ie: you). Note [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#SOAP WP:NOT a soapbox] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#LINK WP:NOT a link repository.] --[[User:Aurochs|Aurochs]] ([[User_talk:Aurochs|Talk]] | [[Special:Blockip/Aurochs|Block]])
 
* I will agree that your version did give more detail, but there were two problems:<br><br>1) I cannot verify the extent of Quickman's role. The entire edit, and especially the phrase "...Qjimbo and Quickman had forcably..." appeared to give him far more credit than I can see he is due.<br>2) The last paragraph was a justification of the coup. This is completely unnecessary for a factual account. Note that the other two History sections simply tell WHAT happened. They do not attempt to justify any individual's actions.<br><br>I am calm enough at this point to begin integrating your edit into the article (tomorrow: it's 4:15 AM right now and i have to be at work in four hours). Note that if you attempt to inject any more propaganda, the page will be locked again.<br><br>As for the Wikipedia revert, it was clearly linkspam added by somebody with a vested interest in improving traffic to the site (ie: you). Note [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#SOAP WP:NOT a soapbox] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#LINK WP:NOT a link repository.] --[[User:Aurochs|Aurochs]] ([[User_talk:Aurochs|Talk]] | [[Special:Blockip/Aurochs|Block]])
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* Pfft, yeah right about wikipedia, there are 4 links already on there, why shouldn't my site be in the links? Besides it was hardly spam, I'm giving out information on Sonic Crackers, do you want people to be uneducated? What benefit does traffic give me? I have no adverts, I don't make any money, I'm just trying to improve peoples knowledge and give them a community. You make it out like I'm some kind of nigerian spammer.
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* Sure the last paragraph might have done, but it was actually sparked by TWeaker asking me why I had done the takeover in the first place if I was going to start fresh. It isn't peticularly beneficial to either party.
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* As for Quickman not playing a role, you think you know all? The information there is 100% true. The details behind it are provided by me, you accept nothing I say as evidence, even though I was one of the coup members? Seems rather narrowminded. The way the article is now is highly innaccurate. You're not even giving me a chance and treating me like dirt when I'm just trying to get things clear. You're just not letting this thing settle down, and if you keep this up, you will cause far more damage to the community than I ever could.

Revision as of 06:30, 27 April 2007

Emotive language vs Factual account

Hi, I believe my revision of this page ( http://info.sonicretro.org/index.php?title=The_Sonic_2_Beta_Page&oldid=45314 ) was more factual in it's language and content than the current reverted revision. As well as this Aurochs' bias is clear, showing how he want us to look bad despite everyone else moving on from the event and getting on with their lives, such as him editing the Sonic Crackers article on wikipedia to remove our page from the external links. Clearly we're not allowed to have any publicity or spread knowledge because of this event and we must forever be damned? "Qjimbo sprung his trap" is so emotive and completely inaccurate. I don't understand why we just can't move on, or at least some how come to a comprimise about the article instead of removing the work I put in to make it more accurate. Qjimbo 02:22, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

  • I will agree that your version did give more detail, but there were two problems:

    1) I cannot verify the extent of Quickman's role. The entire edit, and especially the phrase "...Qjimbo and Quickman had forcably..." appeared to give him far more credit than I can see he is due.
    2) The last paragraph was a justification of the coup. This is completely unnecessary for a factual account. Note that the other two History sections simply tell WHAT happened. They do not attempt to justify any individual's actions.

    I am calm enough at this point to begin integrating your edit into the article (tomorrow: it's 4:15 AM right now and i have to be at work in four hours). Note that if you attempt to inject any more propaganda, the page will be locked again.

    As for the Wikipedia revert, it was clearly linkspam added by somebody with a vested interest in improving traffic to the site (ie: you). Note WP:NOT a soapbox and WP:NOT a link repository. --Aurochs (Talk | Block)
  • Pfft, yeah right about wikipedia, there are 4 links already on there, why shouldn't my site be in the links? Besides it was hardly spam, I'm giving out information on Sonic Crackers, do you want people to be uneducated? What benefit does traffic give me? I have no adverts, I don't make any money, I'm just trying to improve peoples knowledge and give them a community. You make it out like I'm some kind of nigerian spammer.
  • Sure the last paragraph might have done, but it was actually sparked by TWeaker asking me why I had done the takeover in the first place if I was going to start fresh. It isn't peticularly beneficial to either party.
  • As for Quickman not playing a role, you think you know all? The information there is 100% true. The details behind it are provided by me, you accept nothing I say as evidence, even though I was one of the coup members? Seems rather narrowminded. The way the article is now is highly innaccurate. You're not even giving me a chance and treating me like dirt when I'm just trying to get things clear. You're just not letting this thing settle down, and if you keep this up, you will cause far more damage to the community than I ever could.