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| − | MOVE STUFF ONTO PUBLIC ARTICLE
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| − | | + | *''[[SonicPC]]'' |
| − | THEN MOVE/MERGE WHOLE SECTIONS/ARTICLES IF NECESSARY
| + | *Write some kind of disambig-type intro for main X-treme page, linking to Mars, maybe other sections |
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| − | MERGE DEV/E3 1996 TO PRERELEASE, MOVE IMAGES
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| − | DONT FORGET, SONICPC PAGE FOR PRODUCTION CREDITS REASONS
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| − | Where do we differentiate between "describing the game" and "the development history"? Does X-treme even need to be split between main/PoV/Condor?
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| − | *'''Disambig:''' Consider not a straight disambig page but a general-coverage "Sonic X-treme" page, which covers the project as a whole and links to the individual development periods. This might not be necessary (see first bullet point) but would address the issue of our main X-treme page also serving as the main branch era page (when a main X-treme page should ideologically be defined as the whole project, not just its most recognizable form) | |
| − | *'''Intro:''' Each page's intro needs to state that this is part of the larger X-treme project in the same style of writing, and provide a clear link to earlier/later iterations (maybe at bottom of introduction in dedicated line). Perhaps this can be done in the infobox, like we do with pages like [[AM2]].
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| − | *'''Development:''' History (as in press history, prerelease stuff) and Development (what the developers were doing, technical stuff) need to be more clearly distinguished. Any info not on the Development subpage already needs to be moved there, and vice versa. Determine if the split is even necessary (probably, but check). There will be some overlap here. Earlier iterations might not have enough content to warrant a dedicated subpage.
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| − | ==TO DO==
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| | *Redirects, working names, any necessary categories or image tags, etc. | | *Redirects, working names, any necessary categories or image tags, etc. |
| | *Remove Sonic-16 from X-treme articles entirely, including omni. | | *Remove Sonic-16 from X-treme articles entirely, including omni. |
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| | *Everything from the [https://web.archive.org/web/20130323104259/http://www.senntient.com/cgi-local/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Xtreme&number=13&DaysPrune=1000 Senntient forums] | | *Everything from the [https://web.archive.org/web/20130323104259/http://www.senntient.com/cgi-local/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Xtreme&number=13&DaysPrune=1000 Senntient forums] |
| | *Everything from [http://scp.webulate.com SXC) | | *Everything from [http://scp.webulate.com SXC) |
| − | *LEGACY: [https://web.archive.org/web/20150207225804/http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=925240 legacy], [https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?threads/assembler-games-member-has-sonic-xtreme-pov-stuff.33545/ legacy], [https://web.archive.org/web/20150421234730/http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?54194-Sonic-X-treme-Point-of-View-Info-help-required legacy] | + | *Everything from [https://web.archive.org/web/20150207225804/http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=925240 legacy], [https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?threads/assembler-games-member-has-sonic-xtreme-pov-stuff.33545/ legacy], [https://web.archive.org/web/20150421234730/http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?54194-Sonic-X-treme-Point-of-View-Info-help-required legacy] |
| − | *Ofer based his engine on Senn's first two Amiga gameplay demos{{ref|https://web.archive.org/web/20080426154707/http://www.senntient.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=189}}
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| − | *"Ofer and I were already working at our homes on our own version of the game to present to Nakayama-san [when Stolar was hired]" (he likely means Iri) THIS DATE IS IMPORTANT{{ref|https://web.archive.org/web/20080426154707/http://www.senntient.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=189}}
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| | {{creditsheader|''[[SonicPC]]''}} | | {{creditsheader|''[[SonicPC]]''}} |
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| | *'''Composer:''' [[Chris Senn]]{{intref|Interview: Mike Wallis by Pachuka}} | | *'''Composer:''' [[Chris Senn]]{{intref|Interview: Mike Wallis by Pachuka}} |
| | *'''Programmer:''' [[Ofer Alon]]{{intref|Interview: Mike Wallis by Pachuka}} | | *'''Programmer:''' [[Ofer Alon]]{{intref|Interview: Mike Wallis by Pachuka}} |
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| − | *Note in introduction: Peter Morawiec and STI Burbank being aware of ''X-treme'' and confirming they are different projects{{intref|Interview: Peter Morawiec (2000-12-27) by ICEknight}}{{intref|Interview: Peter Morawiec (2000-12-27) by ICEknight}}{{intref|Interview: Peter Morawiec (2007-04-20) by Sega-16}}{{ref|1=https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?threads/presenting.7325/page-4#post-128889}}
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| − | *Mars was expected to be completed by June 1995 (Kosaka proposal ref, May 94)
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| − | *SonicPC development might have continued past cancellation into 1997?
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| − | *[[Hirokazu Yasuhara]] was brought onto ''X-treme'' to assist, and created extensive Act designs for the project. However, his Acts were designed around the concept of Sonic running around in full 3D, which wasn't entirely compatible with how Ofer's gameplay engine presented its viewpoint. Senn states that, had the game used a different camera (for example, one which could rotate around corners), the team could have seen Yasuhara's gameplay design through, but ultimately these Acts never left his concept art notebooks.{{ref|https://web.archive.org/web/20110317064824/http://www.senntient.com:80/projects/xtreme/FAQ.html}}
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| − | *While ''Condor'''s focus was getting the boss engine running smoothly and readying it for its May appearance at [[E3 1996]], the actual gameplay mechanics were largely set aside. As a result, [[Chris Coffin]] hardcoded a value of 21 lives was for earlier versions of the engine, alongside an automatically-increasing life counter, making screenshots published by the press appear more dynamic.{{ref|1=https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?threads/presenting.7325/page-4#post-128853}} Additionally, the only Zone known to be ported to ''Condor'''s engine, [[Jade Gully]], once actually featured enemies{{intref|Interview: Mike Wallis by Pachuka}} (despite the dumped version of the Zone containing none whatsoever).
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| − | ==''[[Sonic X-treme]]''==
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| − | ===Development process===
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| − | SENN'S BELOW LOCATION AND DATE NEEDS DOUBLE-CHECKING, HE WAS LIKELY WORKING FROM HOME AT THIS POINT.
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| − | ====Legacy====
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| − | Assets from the game's development would, however see an official release in ''[[Sonic's Schoolhouse]]''. As both were being developped concurrently, it was decided to repurpose artist [[sega:Ross Harris|Ross Harris]]' existing Sonic the Hedgehog model for prerenders of ''Schoolhouse'''s titular character. Fittingly, Ross Harris is credited in the game’s Special Thanks.
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| − | ====Preservation====
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| − | *Everything missing here. This is its own history project.
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| − | *2006 "auction"{{intref|Interview: Peter Morawiec (2006-01-11) by hxc}}
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| − | *Senn doesn't/never had protos.{{ref|https://web.archive.org/web/20110317064824/http://www.senntient.com:80/projects/xtreme/FAQ.html}} Goddard thinks he has "code for a demo or two" from the 32X era of X-treme, as well as a promotional "billboard".{{intref|Interview: Don Goddard (2008-05) by hxc}} Coffin doesn't have any protos, or already contributed what she has. Is she the source for one of the dumps?{{ref|1=https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?threads/presenting.7325/page-3#post-128838}}
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| | ==References== | | ==References== |
| | <references/> | | <references/> |
