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Amy Rose

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Sonic & Knuckles Collection

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Differences from console version:

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	==Differences from console version==		==Differences from console version==
-	Some of the music in the game(s), which include [[Carnival Night Zone]], [[Ice Cap Zone]], [[Launch Base Zone]], the Knuckles Theme of ''Sonic 3'' and the ''Sonic 3'' credits music, were all replaced with original music. One possible explanation for replacing these tracks is that those pieces of music used sound effects not supported by the MIDI standard, and some sound cards during this time were not capable of playing the MIDI patches as well as sampled sound effects in the music. Another explanation for the replacement is that the original tracks [[~~Michael Jackson~~#~~Sonic 3 Soundtrack Involvement~~\|may have been composed by Jackson]], and were removed in this remake due to legal reasons. Aside from the different soundtrack, the gameplay is identical to their [[Sega Genesis\|Genesis]] counterparts.	+	Some of the music in the game(s), which include [[Carnival Night Zone]], [[Ice Cap Zone]], [[Launch Base Zone]], the Knuckles Theme of ''Sonic 3'' and the ''Sonic 3'' credits music, were all replaced with original music. One possible explanation for replacing these tracks is that those pieces of music used sound effects not supported by the MIDI standard, and some sound cards during this time were not capable of playing the MIDI patches as well as sampled sound effects in the music. Another explanation for the replacement is that the original tracks [[Michael_Jackson#Removed_tracks_in_PC_version\|may have been composed by Jackson]], and were removed in this remake due to legal reasons. Aside from the different soundtrack, the gameplay is identical to their [[Sega Genesis\|Genesis]] counterparts.

	Other things that are noticed is that the ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles'' Level Select Cheat works on ''Sonic 3'' also in Angel Island Zone. This same code, input at [[Mushroom Hill Zone]] in ''Sonic & Knuckles'', does not enable debug mode like in the original, though it does still allow characters to play stages they couldn't access otherwise from the level select. Examples of this include Tails in [[Doomsday Zone]] and Knuckles in [[Sky Sanctuary Zone\|Sky Sanctuary]] 1. When the level select code is performed in ''Sonic 3'', and the second special stage option is selected (which unlike in the original accesses the blue sphere mini-game) enables the player to use Knuckles in the ''Sonic 3'' levels, though they are incomplete and thus cannot always be beaten.		Other things that are noticed is that the ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles'' Level Select Cheat works on ''Sonic 3'' also in Angel Island Zone. This same code, input at [[Mushroom Hill Zone]] in ''Sonic & Knuckles'', does not enable debug mode like in the original, though it does still allow characters to play stages they couldn't access otherwise from the level select. Examples of this include Tails in [[Doomsday Zone]] and Knuckles in [[Sky Sanctuary Zone\|Sky Sanctuary]] 1. When the level select code is performed in ''Sonic 3'', and the second special stage option is selected (which unlike in the original accesses the blue sphere mini-game) enables the player to use Knuckles in the ''Sonic 3'' levels, though they are incomplete and thus cannot always be beaten.

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Michael Jackson

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"Jam" & Carnival Night Zone:

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	The similarities between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jam_%28song%29 Jam] and [[Carnival Night Zone]] (both acts) were spotted by [[Ben2k9]] before it was even known that Michael Jackson worked on the music for Sonic 3. The tracks themselves aren't very similar, but there is a horn-based "downwards fall" (played directly before Michael Jordan's rap in the Jackson song) that also appears during Carnival Night. Carnival Night also uses a small sample taken from "Jam" (the sound of breaking glass as well as Heavy D uttering the word "Jam" from the beginning of his rap verse).		The similarities between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jam_%28song%29 Jam] and [[Carnival Night Zone]] (both acts) were spotted by [[Ben2k9]] before it was even known that Michael Jackson worked on the music for Sonic 3. The tracks themselves aren't very similar, but there is a horn-based "downwards fall" (played directly before Michael Jordan's rap in the Jackson song) that also appears during Carnival Night. Carnival Night also uses a small sample taken from "Jam" (the sound of breaking glass as well as Heavy D uttering the word "Jam" from the beginning of his rap verse).

-	[[Image:Michael_Jackson_Jam_and_Carnival_Night_Zone_comparison.png\|frame\|center\|The [[Carnival Night Zone]] melody compared to horns in "Jam" from the album ''Dangerous'' (transposed down one semitone).]]	+	[[Image:Michael_Jackson_Jam_and_Carnival_Night_Zone_comparison.png\|frame\|center\|The [[Carnival Night Zone]] melody is compared to horns in "Jam" from the album ''Dangerous'' (transposed down one semitone). Identical notes between the two songs are highlighted in red.]]

	This similar "downwards fall" is also apparent audibly:		This similar "downwards fall" is also apparent audibly:
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	====Unable to credit Jackson====		====Unable to credit Jackson====
-	Even if Jackson's work was used in ''Sonic 3'', there was a possibility his name [http://www.eeggs.com/items/2279.html could not appear] in the credits due to contractual complications. In 1991, Jackson guest starred in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stark_Raving_Dad ~~an episode~~] in the third season of the American animated sitcom [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons ''The Simpsons'']. Jackson was credited as John Jay Smith, a person that does not exist. ~~[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Simpson~~ Lisa] refers to Jackson's work in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer%27s_Triple_Bypass a season four episode] when talking about an Itchy and Scratchy movie: "And you wouldn't believe the celebrities who did cameos. Dustin Hoffman, Michael Jackson...of course they didn't use their real names, but you could tell it was them." If he could not be credited for his work in ''The Simpsons'', then his work in ''Sonic 3'' may also have been uncredited if it was included in the final game. This was discovered by [[XCubed³]].	+	Even if Jackson's work was used in ''Sonic 3'', there was a possibility his name [http://www.eeggs.com/items/2279.html could not appear] in the credits due to contractual complications. In 1991, Jackson guest starred in the episode, ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stark_Raving_Dad Stark Raving Dad]'', in the third season of the American animated sitcom [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons ''The Simpsons'']. Jackson was credited as John Jay Smith, a person that does not exist. The character Lisa Simpson refers to Jackson's work in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer%27s_Triple_Bypass a season four episode] when talking about an Itchy and Scratchy movie: "And you wouldn't believe the celebrities who did cameos. Dustin Hoffman, Michael Jackson...of course they didn't use their real names, but you could tell it was them." If Jackson could not be credited for his work in ''The Simpsons'', then his work in ''Sonic 3'' may also have been uncredited if it was included in the final game, if the same line of thought is followed. This was discovered by [[XCubed³]].

	====Removed tracks in PC version====		====Removed tracks in PC version====
	The PC remake ''[[Sonic & Knuckles Collection]]'' featured replaced tracks for Carnival Night Zone, Ice Cap Zone, Launch Base Zone, the Knuckles Theme of Sonic 3, and the Sonic 3 credits music. One theory behind [[Sonic & Knuckles Collection#Differences from console version\|the reason for replacing these tracks]] is that the original tracks may have been composed by Jackson, and were removed in this remake due to legal reasons.		The PC remake ''[[Sonic & Knuckles Collection]]'' featured replaced tracks for Carnival Night Zone, Ice Cap Zone, Launch Base Zone, the Knuckles Theme of Sonic 3, and the Sonic 3 credits music. One theory behind [[Sonic & Knuckles Collection#Differences from console version\|the reason for replacing these tracks]] is that the original tracks may have been composed by Jackson, and were removed in this remake due to legal reasons.
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Michael Jackson

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"Jam" & Carnival Night Zone:

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	The similarities between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jam_%28song%29 Jam] and [[Carnival Night Zone]] (both acts) were spotted by [[Ben2k9]] before it was even known that Michael Jackson worked on the music for Sonic 3. The tracks themselves aren't very similar, but there is a horn-based "downwards fall" (played directly before Michael Jordan's rap in the Jackson song) that also appears during Carnival Night. Carnival Night also uses a small sample taken from "Jam" (the sound of breaking glass as well as Heavy D uttering the word "Jam" from the beginning of his rap verse).		The similarities between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jam_%28song%29 Jam] and [[Carnival Night Zone]] (both acts) were spotted by [[Ben2k9]] before it was even known that Michael Jackson worked on the music for Sonic 3. The tracks themselves aren't very similar, but there is a horn-based "downwards fall" (played directly before Michael Jordan's rap in the Jackson song) that also appears during Carnival Night. Carnival Night also uses a small sample taken from "Jam" (the sound of breaking glass as well as Heavy D uttering the word "Jam" from the beginning of his rap verse).

-	[[Image:Michael_Jackson_Jam_and_Carnival_Night_Zone_comparison.png\|frame\|center\|[[Carnival Night Zone]] compared to "Jam" from the album ''Dangerous'' (transposed down one semitone).]]	+	[[Image:Michael_Jackson_Jam_and_Carnival_Night_Zone_comparison.png\|frame\|center\|The [[Carnival Night Zone]] melody compared to horns in "Jam" from the album ''Dangerous'' (transposed down one semitone).]]

	This similar "downwards fall" is also apparent audibly:		This similar "downwards fall" is also apparent audibly:

File:Carnival Night Zone and Jam mix.mp3

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Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Official Players Guide Preview (Sega Visions, March 1993)

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-	'''Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Official ~~Players~~ Guide Preview''' is a four page preview of ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (16-bit)\|Sonic the Hedgehog 2's]]'' Official ~~Players~~ Guide in the March 1993 issue of ''Sega Visions'' magazine. It covers Oil Ocean as well as covering the 8-bit version in a small section.	+	'''Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Official Player's Guide Preview''' is a four page preview of ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (16-bit)\|Sonic the Hedgehog 2's]]'' Official Player's Guide in the March 1993 issue of ''Sega Visions'' magazine. It covers Oil Ocean as well as covering the 8-bit version in a small section.

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Sno Problem

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Sonic Says Segment: heh, wording

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	==Sonic Says Segment==		==Sonic Says Segment==
-	This Sonic Says Segment stresses the importance of bicycle maintainance. It opens with Tails asking Sonic to ride a double seated bicycle. Sonic does not allow a ride until he does a spot check on it. Shortly after the check they start to ride the bike only to find Scratch and Grounder giving chase. Not long after the chase starts it ends as Scratch and Grounders bike tips over. Sonic uses this as an opportunity to tell kids to keep their bikes maintained well as an unmaintained one could fall apart and thus harm ~~the kids riding it~~.	+	This Sonic Says Segment stresses the importance of bicycle maintainance. It opens with Tails asking Sonic to ride a double seated bicycle. Sonic does not allow a ride until he does a spot check on it. Shortly after the check they start to ride the bike only to find Scratch and Grounder giving chase. Not long after the chase starts it ends as Scratch and Grounders bike tips over. Sonic uses this as an opportunity to tell kids to keep their bikes maintained well as an unmaintained one could fall apart and thus harm its rider.

	==Source==		==Source==

Category:Sonic the Hedgehog 3: Up Against the Wall Scans

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Lamp post

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#REDIRECT [[Checkpoint]]

E-123 Omega

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	* Madeline Blaustein (Sonic the Hedgehog (English))		* Madeline Blaustein (Sonic the Hedgehog (English))

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E-105 Zeta

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	'''E-105 Zeta''' is a character from [[Sonic Adventure]]. Compared to the other [[E-Series Robots]], Zeta is gargantuan. Playing as [[E-102 Gamma]], you battle Zeta in [[Hot Shelter]]. When destroyed, Zeta is a partridge.		'''E-105 Zeta''' is a character from [[Sonic Adventure]]. Compared to the other [[E-Series Robots]], Zeta is gargantuan. Playing as [[E-102 Gamma]], you battle Zeta in [[Hot Shelter]]. When destroyed, Zeta is a partridge.
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E-103 Delta

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	In [[Sonic Adventure]], '''E-103 Delta''' was one of the E-100 series robots designed by [[Dr. Eggman]]. Delta is a miniboss at the end of [[E-102 Gamma]]'s level, [[Windy Valley]]. When destroyed in the original Sonic Adventure, Delta is a green [[Flicky]]. In Sonic Adventure DX, however, Delta is a parrot.		In [[Sonic Adventure]], '''E-103 Delta''' was one of the E-100 series robots designed by [[Dr. Eggman]]. Delta is a miniboss at the end of [[E-102 Gamma]]'s level, [[Windy Valley]]. When destroyed in the original Sonic Adventure, Delta is a green [[Flicky]]. In Sonic Adventure DX, however, Delta is a parrot.
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	Remaining mute throughout Sonic Adventure, Beta’s motivations remain a mystery. One theory – judging by his rebuttal to the first defeat against Gamma, and his later, upgraded attack without direct order from Dr. Eggman – is that E-101 Beta also developed a sort of sentience and independent consciousness similar to Gamma, only Beta’s mind was driven by hatred and revenge for the younger robot who upstaged him.		Remaining mute throughout Sonic Adventure, Beta’s motivations remain a mystery. One theory – judging by his rebuttal to the first defeat against Gamma, and his later, upgraded attack without direct order from Dr. Eggman – is that E-101 Beta also developed a sort of sentience and independent consciousness similar to Gamma, only Beta’s mind was driven by hatred and revenge for the younger robot who upstaged him.
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E-100 Alpha

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	Zero makes a cameo appearance in ''[[Sonic Advance 2]]'' as an obstacle in the special stages.		Zero makes a cameo appearance in ''[[Sonic Advance 2]]'' as an obstacle in the special stages.
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	In [[Sonic Adventure]], '''E-104 Epsilon''' was one of [[Dr. Eggman]]'s E-100 series robots. Epsilon was a miniboss at the end of [[E-102 Gamma]]'s level [[Red Mountain]]. When destroyed in the original Sonic Adventure, Epsilon is an orange [[Flicky]]. In Sonic Adventure DX, however, Epsilon is a swallow.		In [[Sonic Adventure]], '''E-104 Epsilon''' was one of [[Dr. Eggman]]'s E-100 series robots. Epsilon was a miniboss at the end of [[E-102 Gamma]]'s level [[Red Mountain]]. When destroyed in the original Sonic Adventure, Epsilon is an orange [[Flicky]]. In Sonic Adventure DX, however, Epsilon is a swallow.
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