Lightning Shield

From Sonic Retro

Thunder Barrier and Magnetic Barrier

It looks like the Japanese releases have been consistent about treating the Thunder Barrier (サンダーバリア) and Magnetic Barrier (磁力バリア Jiryoku Barrier) as separate items.

Thunder Barrier (S3, S&K, Generations, Mania)

  • Attracts rings
  • Deflects projects
  • Disappears in water
  • Allows Sonic to 2-step jump (2段ジャンプ)
  • Electric immunity

Magnetic Barrier (Adventure 1-2, Advance etc.)

  • Attracts rings
  • CAN be used in water

Sonic R's version, simply called Thunder (サンダー), is a little different, since Sonic can double-jump as standard and there are no projectiles or electricity in the game, but it still follows the rule of disappearing in water.

All this being said, I'm unfamiliar with how Sonic Lost World treated its version of the item, or how it's named. Since Miiverse is gone, I don't think it's available in the Wii U/PC version anymore.

We could have them as separate pages, but if not, it might be worth clearly distinguishing the two on this page. What does everyone think? --Pecky (talk) 12:22, 12 May 2019 (EDT)

It's a good point, although regardless of what happens I think the best plan is to set this page up similarly to what I did with the Water Shield, i.e. explain its role in each game individually, because there are bound to be strange things and weird overlaps.
I too don't know how some of the newer games handle things. I also can't remember if the magnetic shield protects against electricity in Sonic Adventure - I have a feeling it might, but it's been a while. -Black Squirrel (talk) 13:07, 12 May 2019 (EDT)
That's a good way of doing it. I think it would be also worth having the game specific name (with reference) before the description. Something like:
===Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Sonic & Knuckles===
English: Water Shield
Japanese: Aqua Barrier (アクアバリア)
In addition to serving as a one-shot barrier against damage and life loss, the Water Shield...
As for the Thunder/Magnetic Barrier, Sonic Generations 3DS looks to be an odd case as well. Apparently it's only in Emerald Coast Act 1, but can also be received as a special skill for the main game by playing Versus mode online. Ideally, we should try to confirm whether or not it's named in-game. The shield in Emerald Coast has the Sonic Adventure style item box emblem, rather than the Sonic 3 style lightning bolt emblem the console version of Generations uses. --Pecky (talk) 14:40, 12 May 2019 (EDT)
I might add that although Miiverse is now gone, it's still possible to get the shield in Lost World as, as far as I'm aware, an update made it so items spawn randomly on the world map, plus you can get it as a reward for completing missions.
And I can confirm that the shield in Sonic Generations 3DS is definitely named the Magnetic Shield. Physical UK copies have a manual that lists the item names. That's something I should get scanned as soon as I can. --BSonirachi (talk) 18:53, 12 May 2019 (EDT)
Thanks for confirming that. So, Sonic Generations HD has the "Thunder Shield" with the lightning bolt emblem and Sonic 3 properties, and Sonic Generations 3DS has the "Magnetic Shield" with the orb emblem and SA1 properties. I think that pretty much cements them as separate entities. --Pecky (talk) 16:25, 13 May 2019 (EDT)
Okay, so now that I've gotten the scans up for Generations 3DS up, does this mean we should start treating the Lightning and Magnetic Shields as separate entities and give them their own articles? --BSonirachi (talk) 18:21, 2 June 2019 (EDT)
This is something I'd still like to go ahead with. Since the two versions of Sonic Generations treat them as different items, with different icons, abilities and names, we should too. --Pecky (talk) 22:46, 25 October 2020 (EDT)